Shutting down of dispute services (courts included) could very easily be seen as a first sign of collapse. I have blocked the buyer as you have suggested. 4. Buyer opened a case and is demanding a refund. You could contact them and ask them to investigate, but sounds like the buyer is probably trying it on. ... Do not go making refunds on received items. Hey I'm dealing with the same stuff right now. receptionist, family member) will be denied. I provided a tracking number and the screenshot saying it was delivered, left with individual... my case is open currently... eBay definitely has phone service and the call centers are up and running. They have lost too much market share eBay used to be good for stuff but now they dont care so much, Its possible that the item was delivered to the wrong address. Sent me back a box of garbage on my dime. They would almost certainly lose any possibility of obtaining credit and will almost certainly be barred from holding a normal bank account under Bank of France rules. EBay sided with the seller despite 6 other buyers making the same claim. This topic was automatically closed 180 days after the last reply. If you have evidence that the item has been delivered and a signature it is the best way to recover your losses. If you and the buyer can't agree on a resolution within 3 business days, you or the buyer can ask eBay to step in and help.. Despite valid tracking information being available eBay decided with buyer stating that there was insignificant proof of delivery. Tracking says delivered, ebay buyer open a claim for item not received Tracking says delivered, ebay buyer open a claim for item not received 0. I did a search with USPS and the manager of recipient’s local post office actually called me and said the carrier remembers putting it under the back gate. The easiest way to resolve “item not received” requests is to provide tracking details showing the delivery address and delivery date of the item. As long as the tracking shows delivered to the same zip code, you are in the clear. It's delivered! Ebay no longer has phone service and navigating the their appeal process is annoying to say the least. The order in question was of value £91, plus the £14 postage I paid, and the refund was taken from my account in spite of my fully representing my case including full tracking information and even a letter from Royal Mail stating it was delivered (Royal Mail understandably refused to refund me on this basis). People lose cases because they don’t represent themselves very well / don’t spoon feed Amazon with the info. I got a case right now opened by the buyer claiming she didn't received the item. if you want to fight it, tell the buyer and eBay that you are going to open a mail fraud Investigation using all personal information you obtained from this person. It would be particularly successful to use against a French debtor because a judgement would have more serious consequences than just the money. Well, I emailed managingdirector@amazon.co.uk as suggested. Not had a reply. Have a buyer who says they didn't get something, and opened a request, maybe the postman screwed up or maybe they're trying to pull a scam I don't know. EBay is complicit in ripping off their sellers. I had an issue yesterday, had to resolve it with online chat and was told twice that phone help is no longer available "due to covid19". https://imgur.com/a/f8ylr5g (here is a screenshot). I called right away to have it closed, as I always did. Interesting. Include a link to the tracking page, preferably one where the tracking number forms part of the link so the person reading the case doesn’t have to manually enter the tracking number. My question is, will Amazon refund him even after I show him valid tracking information with his signature? The tracking had shown delivered for 3 weeks prior to her doing that. Mardy 2014-06-13 07:47:48 UTC #2 Customer has ordered and paid for goods and havent received them. Guarantee claims for packages that are signed for by a freight forwarder or an agent of the buyer (e.g. If an A-Z claim is opened, then provided you added tracking to the order, Amazon will give you 3 days to respond to the claim and you will need to provide evidence of delivery, but even then, if not a fully tracked service, they tend to refund the buyer. ), This thread has been locked by the moderators of r/Ebay. Respond carefully, respectfully and thoughtfully in the Resolution Center. It was delivered August 5th. I'm done with eBay, this is absurd. Hi, I just encountered a buyer who goes like he hasn’t received his order. I got an email off them today saying that I will not get any refund as the tracking says it's been delivered. I sold a DVD on august 3rd. Prev; 1 ... do an investigation. No manager has been in touch. most likely it is not worth your time. The reply was that the item had gone missing. However, this was an international order: No more interest or desire selling on this platform anymore. Product(s) Shipped with Signature Confirmation Tracking–Tracking Shows Delivery and Buyer Claims Item Not Received. Started by marmat, August 12. According to eBay rules, you are entitled to a refund or replacement item from the seller unless they have tracking information that confirms the package was delivered. Buyer claims item not received, tracking shows delivered. I sold a DVD on august 3rd. Anyways not sure who would be responsible in this scenario (USPS perhaps, if you could somehow prove it? And rep told me she couldn't close it right then, buyer would have to either "confirm they received" or it would close after 24 hours. Buyer claims he has not received it. Cover all bases when you defend an A-Z which you have tracking for: include a scan or photo of the proof of postage, explain that it matches the delivery address on the order. Plenty of people find that even though USPS tracking says delivered but no package was found in their mailbox it’s only because the package itself was left at another doorstep, in the bushes, or set somewhere that they weren’t expecting. Buyer opened a case and is demanding a refund. Does anyone know what the process is when a buyer claims that an item has not been received despite tracking details saying it was delivered? If you have proof that the buyer has the item and that it was not delivered to a neighbour etc then I’d consider taking further action if I were you. If the buyer says they didn't receive the item, but it shows it was delivered, then there's only 3 possible scenarios: There are probably even more, but you missed what appears to be a common one: Carrier scanned the package as delivered (either before leaving on his route at at the recipient's doorstep), then, for any number of reasons, failed to actually deliver it. Tracking shown delivered over a month ago. I had to have an issue resolved earlier this week. Same exact situation happened to me this week. Sell on Amazon. Easy to use. Which is ridiculous! The parcel was definitely not delivered to mine as I was out and they normally leave a card. Don't refund! Send a message to the buyer – If you'd like to speak with the buyer directly to try and resolve their issue, you can send them a message through the "Item not received" request. For Item Not Received claims: "If the seller presents evidence that they delivered the goods to your address, PayPal may find in favor of the seller for an Item Not Received claim even if you did not receive the goods." The terms are not that hard to find. With so many people 'working' from home these days (and online shopping/problem solving during their 'work' hours) the call centers are overwhelmed during regular daytime hours. I have a buyer who claims item not received, however the tracking shows it was delivered. Items occasionally are lost. I think it’s going to be my turn to lose a substantial sum here and... I’ve heard that you can report this kind of a buyer to a Buyer abuse department, the result would be that the particular buyer would not be able to purchase from you again. Sold a video game, says delivered "left with individual". Minna (everyone), arrigato for taking your precious time reading. Dear all, This is my first post on this forum, so please bear with me! The item was purchased on 7/3/20, tracking shows courier attempted delivery a couple of weeks later. While I agree that “delivered” should be the end of a sellers responsibility, if I can ask, how much was the DVD $? I received an email from the buyer today asking where is the item as not received. Send a message to your buyer, provide empathy, stating that you will do your best to resolve this dispute for them. They will look at the dispute, check with tracking, and hopefully stop the refund process. ... unfortunately PayPal sides with the buyer because they say that there's no proof the item was delivered. If I could, I would love to avoid dishonest buyers like him. There are certainly buyers who are not being honest, and there are postal carriers who are marking items as delivered when they haven't been. UKBookEmporium1 2013-02-09 12:18:14 UTC #1. Re: Buyer claims: item not received - tracking says otherwise - what do I do? Some sellers may also be able to send you out a replacement item, if they have one. Did you upload the tracking when you originally shipped the order? I am so fed up with ebay. Sent a few items by a Click and Send satchel on January 3 (just tracking, no signature). Amazon answered my request for an explanation and refund with stock responses and is now ignoring me about it. https://sellercentral.amazon.co.uk/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=1620993. Sorry to hear that. I completed the online re-delivery, and also sent and e.mail to RM querying why no card had been left. The Seller is responsible for the item until it is delivered. We don’t argue the toss with Amazon nowadays,i t is really not worth the effort of trying to get them to accept evidence that would be acceptable to the police or the courts. Ahahah man… I thought I was the only one being evil sometimes thinking like that…,. @askebay on twitter ask them to check into this. And he also mentions that if it is not my fault it’s Amazon’s. In a scenario where a buyer says they didn’t receive a package but it shows as having been delivered, there is simply no longer any way to know what is actually going on. 3. If a buyer claims that they have not received their item, but the tracking information states that it was delivered, do not jump to the conclusion that the buyer is lying. If there was a delivery error, someone out of that PO made it. Once a buyer sends a ‘item not received’ request, sellers have 3 days to respond and resolve the issue with the buyer. 6. However, if an investigation determines that the customer did not receive the order due to a shipping error beyond his or her control, the seller may be held liable. They have started closing buyers account that has multiple A-Z claim. Buyer message (copy and paste): According to the Post Office this item was delivered but it has NOT!! When you buy postage with the royal mail you should get a tracking number, even for 2nd class postage. Send the buyer a link to RM tracking explaining the order has been delivered and you will need to contact Royal Mail and ask them to verify the GPS last scan was at their address, then contact RM. Hello, I sold a cheap item ( like £5) I posted it on Tuesday by tracked courie delivery and according the tracking info it was delivered on Thursday. I looked up at his tracking information and it seems like it was delivered to his address with a signature. If you get a neg for INR then contact ebay to try and get it removed. I’ve read multiple cases on these threads of buyers claiming INR, the seller proving it was delivered, and then still falling foul of an A-z claim where Amazon favours the buyer. Yes, tracking uploaded when order shipped, followed up when customer first claimed item not delivered with a scan of the signature then followed up with a case I opened myself. Wish you all a happy new year, Edited by: ToonWorld on Dec 30, 2017 9:10 PM, Edited by: ToonWorld on Dec 30, 2017 9:11 PM. Check your item's delivery information Happened me some time back, I was inclined to believe the buyer as they contacted Amazon to highlight tracking says delivered but buyer never received, later said he checked neighbours and the name signed for was unknown. I am now concerned ebay will side with them like they did in your case. Debt recovery if you're owed money from people or businesses in another EU country - how to ask for a repayment. Tracking shown delivered over a month ago. The golden days of ebay are way behind us. Help for sellers and buyers! Help please! I refunded the buyer and received a reply that the item had just been delivered, so was paid again. I have since made a claim with eBay as I didn't receive the item. Etsy seller protection will cover you against an item not received dispute since tracking shows it was Delivered. No phone service makes matters even worse. However, this was an international order: The order in question was of value £91, plus the £14 postage I paid, and the refund was taken from my account in spite of my fully representing my case including full tracking information and even a letter from Royal Mail stating it was delivered (Royal Mail understandably refused to refund me on this basis). This is the information I found which was on the forum message iD 3612399 we are not allowed to send links. The order was dispatched on 28th and was delivered today at 9:36 with his signature. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Buyer claims item not recieved Tracking shows item delivered with signature, https://sellercentral.amazon.co.uk/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=1620993. I am only selling on Amazon marketplace for less than 2 years and have limited knowledge on how A-Z claim works. Look here. Hi. To rub salt into the wounds I emailed Amazon France who say they cannot see the sale even though I gave them the order ID and then they promptly closed the case! 36 posts in this topic. Its an online small claims court for claiming debt up to the equivalent of £5000 from Eu countries. Items get stolen off peoples porches, items are mis delivered, etc. I have never lost a case where I have proof of delivery when I’ve provided a tracking number with dispatch confirmation and they’re mainly Royal Mail Signed For, so not fully tracked. I just encountered a buyer who goes like he hasn’t received his order. Item was delivered a few days later. It’s always a good idea to check no matter what. We anticipate that this would be a very rare occurrence. Tracking shows they delivered within 2 days. If you don’t get the desired result, send an email with all the details to managingdirector@amazon.co.uk. I will be cancelling my store subscription once the year is up (next month) and currently dropping my prices significantly to get rid of my items asap. The Australia Post site says it was delivered on January 8 and 10:14am. I think it’s going to be my turn to lose a substantial sum here and... I’ve read multiple cases on these threads of buyers claiming INR, the seller proving it was delivered, and then still falling foul of an A-z claim where Amazon favours the buyer. They have never used wording like that before. Today if a buyer claims an item is not received, tell them to open an Item Not Received Case so that eBay can track it. It shows as delivered so you'd win an item not received case. Buyer claims item not received. A human being, who can reason, will read your email and should see sense, Amazon’s finding in favour of a buyer even when the item is tracked is not a myth for me - I wish it were. It's not letting me file an appeal online either. Why is that folks know the terms of other payment processors and not PayPal? I sent using Royal Mail 48 Tracked (business account). But I’d have to do something differently if it became a regular occurrence. If the name on the signature confirmation matches the buyer, the A-to-z Guarantee team will deny the claim. Sit on your hands and wait. Cookies help us deliver our Services. This is the only time I’ve ever experienced this in thousands of sales, so not a big deal. Appeal the A-Z decision. Just try early or late in the day. Buyer claims item not received. Don't say anything to inflame your buyer. Full stop. 5. I feel exactly the same. /r/Ebay If signature confirmation does not match the buyer, the A-to-z Guarantee team will deny the claim and ask the buyer to follow-up with the individual that signed for the package. I looked up at his tracking information and it seems like it was delivered to his address with a signature. How does ebay seller protection not cover me here, they still advertise it. What do I do here? Ebay is turning into anover amazon. >but even then, if not a fully tracked service, they tend to refund the buyer. That was before eBay’s latest update to selling standards. Let your buyer go on a scavenger hunt around his neighborhood, not you. Royal Mail won't compensate you, it shows it's been delivered. Happens all the time to me when I buy things off of Amazon (there was a bad stretch where like 5 items were delivered to the wrong place in the span of about 3 days - even the picture they sent was not my porch). I think that’s a myth that gets often repeated on this forum. Notification email gave me opportunity to appeal, but I let it go because it was only a $13 item. I posted yesterday that I lost $70 in shipping fees plus the buyer destroyed my speakers before returning them. Wanna Sell More on eBay? New replies are no longer allowed. Massively confused, having read articles which say I'll be fine and others which say I'm doomed. Its a very heavy sanction for fraud. Refund the buyer – The buyer will get a full refund, including the original postage costs. I have one today A to Z, claimed item not received. What solution can i get from Amazon seller support for this kind of issues? I had an item not received case opened. I’m sick of Amazon saying that I have done everything correctly and then refunding the customer anyway. She immediately asked for a refund, not a replacement of the books which also made me suspicious. Amazon earlier this year refunded a guy who has made multiple “item not received” claims against me (which is why I sent his last order tracked/signed). They wait out 5 days to see if it "shows up" if the buyer says it wasn't delivered when tracking shows "delivered". Help for New Sellers. I conveyed this to buyer and eBay, but they still refunded the buyer. Buyer queried whether the item had been posted, and correspondence revealed what had happened. Ebay sides with buyer. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Read our article on responding to an item not received case If your item hasn't arrived, you're protected by the eBay Money Back Guarantee and can ask the seller for a refund. It was a merchant fulfilled order. amazing how we have to reply to a buyer within 24 hours, but Amazon don’t have to reply and it’s been 10 days. 7. But you may have heard that Amazon is actually taking actions about these. Amazon earlier this year refunded a guy who has made multiple “item not received” claims against me (which is why I sent his last order tracked/signed). ... Sold a video game, says delivered "left with individual". Contact USPS, especially if you paid for insurance. I'm really disappointed in royal mail. The buyer even said "Tracking shows delivered" in their initial request. Include a screen shot of the tracking page which shows that the item was delivered and if the recipient’s name is the name of the person who signed, point that out. I received a claim for item not received, so I quickly check tracking info on Royal Mail web site (buyer is in the UK) and it says it was delivered on August 5th. Here is a screenshot of the tracking information. Amazon answered my request for an explanation and refund with stock responses and is now ignoring me about it. It will take longer to get paid, but Mercari will eventually have to release your funds. They say "Tracking shows item delivered, but I don't have it, want a refund". How on EARTH is that is anyway the sellers responsibility??? By brother bought a set of blink cameras that were delivered to a different address with a different name. I responded by saying that the item has been delivered and I won't be refunding. sellercentral.amazon.co.uk I'd honestly like to sue them for breach of contract. The order was dispatched on 28th and was delivered today at 9:36 with his signature. Amazon’s finding in favour of a buyer even when the item is tracked is not a myth for me - I wish it were. Choose this option if you don't have tracking that shows the item was delivered or tracking details that shows that the package has been in transit without movement for 7 days or more (10 for international deliveries). Signatures on international The unofficial eBay subreddit. Press J to jump to the feed. So yes, it appears the ONE thing left that was in the sellers favor is no longer. Great. Buyer opens a case. You have a tracking number - you're safe - worse case scenario, you get negative feedback against you - I would call Ebay or Paypal for options but you did it the right way. Nothing you can do to block buyers, or prevent this from happening, it’s just another risk of online selling. In 10 years I’ve only ever won 2 cases, ironically both within 4 weeks of each other in October 2107, prior to that even when I have had proof of postage, tracking information and proof of a signature I have still lost cases so I wouldn’t hold my breath, you could also tell the buyer that the item has an embedded tracking chip which can locate the item down to the meter, you’ll be surprised how many people back off then, alternatively take it up with Amazon under buyer abuse, you may be lucky just as I was last time, the buyer was kicked off of Amazon so it is worth trying, good luck. They should contact their local PO. There is no real reason for you to offer a refund. Buyer claims item not received. Apr 3, 2020 12:12:44 PM. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. After this, eBay will step in. Give Terapeak A Try 7 Day FREE TRIALhttps://www.terapeak.com/lp/sellingmoreonline?rfsn=188488.9b3d9eBay Situations - … This article will explain what sellers should and should not do in the event that an item is not received by the buyer and how to reduce the occurrence of such issues in … If you purchased an item on eBay and the shipment hasn't arrived, there are the steps you can take to try and track it down or ask to get your money back. Tracking was already uploaded with scan of signature sent manually, still lost the case - £200 down the drain. Let’s see if buyer blinks. And he also mentions that if it is not my fault it’s Amazon’s. Explained to the buyer that it's showing as delivered. I was afraid this was going to happen. I am now concerned ebay will side with them like they did in your case. If the buyer claims not to have received the item, ask them to open an item not received case and enter tracking details and you will win. 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